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You have what I call a 'Trade Brand Name' shotgun but that is not technically true. A 'Trade Brand Name' shot is one that was made by a major maker for and was sold by a wholesale sporting goods dealer, a retail chain store or an independent seller (your local hardware store) who chose the name to go on the gun.

A NEW BAKER MODEl shotgun (an outside hammer type) was made by the Baker Gun And Forging Company of Syracuse New York (1887 to 1919) The BAKER NEW MODEL was made from 1887 to 1894 (I have serial number-year made tables for this gun). Crescent Fire Arms Company did not start making Baker shotguns until 1920. A serial number if there is one will be stamped on the bottom of the barrels or the flat part of the receiver which is known as the watertable. These were well made fairly inexpensive shotguns selling for between $15 to $25 new. Current value will depend on the guns condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. A Prime condition example (rare as as,these guns were used hard and received little care or maintenance) that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring as much as $125 while a rusty and pitted metal, rotten or broken wood and missing parts piece of junk fit only for salvage of parts or as a whiskey still stirring stick might bring as little as $10 if it could be sold at all.

Then sentimental value can't e calculated can it? Thanks for posting your pics and congrats on owning a Baker, even it is a little ruff. If you haven't already found the site, you might check out The site includes a little history that helps explain why some people associate Baker with one city and other folks place him in another city.

Baker was quite a fellow and got around quite a bit. Evidently, he often got around just a few steps in front of the law. The most notorious example is probably the night he had to climb out the window of the hotel where he was staying to avoid arrest! More well documented is the lawsuit by Stevens against Baker Gun for patent infringement. My interest stems from the fact that my late wife's uncle worked for Baker and eventually retired from it's successor. I learned a great deal in talking with him, including the stories about clearing out all the company records and throwing them in the trash!

A few years ago, circa 1995, there was a young guy who was trying to write a history of the company and its guns. I haven't heard from him in years and haven't seen the book anywhere so I guess that it has not been published. As far as I know, there is nothing like a Baker Collector's Club, but several years ago I met some folks through the L.C. Smith Collectors Association who knew a great deal about Baker guns. The is a collector's market for Baker guns, but it's very limited, the higher end models are the most sought after, and condition means everything.

Do a search for Baker Batavia Leader and you'll find quite a range of prices. There is also someone out there selling reproductions of a Batavia Gun metal advertising sign as well as the 1915 catalog. Well, best of luck and thanks again for posting. Baker designed and was associated with several pre-1900 double gun companies prior to 1900; and although I can't remember all the company associations, after selling his interest in one of those companies, he started a new company manufacturing his 'New Baker' model hammer gun (I think W.H. Baker died in 1888 not too long after starting this company?). With the exception of the last post, most of the above information is horse feathers, therefore I would discount what has been posted. I suggest you visit doublegunshop.com and post your pics and questions there; and specifically to the attention of Daryl Halquist who is a long-time Baker collector and knows more about Baker shotguns that anyone alive today.

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Another poster there, 'Researcher', knows tons of history on W.H. Baker and his associations; and both men will gladly share the information they have gathered over many years. Best Regards, Tom. • The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts. Join us to discuss firearms of all kinds, gun accessories, legal issues and more. Membership is free and we welcome all types of shooters, whether you're a novice or a pro.

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Barker Not really much history. It was a brand name used by Sears Roebuck in the early 1900's.

They were manufactured by Crescent Arms and possibly a few other US makers, but most were inexpensive Belgian imports. More information contributed by others: • I found from the Illinois State Museum section 'Harvesting the River,' that the T. Barker was sold in 1897 by Sears for $11.97. They're example was seized during the Taylor Mine Wars.